What is the Problem and Where are we?

From Data Sharing Summit

On April 18th at 9 AM. Each speaker was given 5 min to address the question what is the problem and where are we? These notes were derived from the feedback that audience members recorded on post-it notes that were collected following the talks. They also posed questions based on what they heard.


Joseph Smarr Plaxo

  • We have Runway issues
  • beyond just account and photos and email validation - then what?
  • Finding Family Photos - atom pub for photos
    • Solve: OpenID next step, OAuth private data.

Questions:

  • What is most important data about me that is in Yahoo!

David Recordon Six Appart

  • Is this Communism?
  • Is this Politics?
  • Is this everyone loves kittens?
  • Framing ides in ways that are usable to people - practically
  • Not about technology
  • Not necessarily technological problems
  • focus on end to end scenarios (not underlying technologies)
  • Policy issues? big guys fear loss of data
  • Focus on real use cases that patter not data portability as an end in itself
  • Am I going to ship interesting tech?
  • Sign up to a new services and immediately find the people you konw.
  • No good tech!
  • Free as in Kittens

Questions:

  • Is this about finding existing friends etc, and? or? based in sharing content and communicating?
  • Waht is data portability/sharing?
    • everything open?
    • ownership?
    • tech?
    • Politics?
    • loving kittens?


John Kemp Nokia

  • SOCIAL ISSUES
  • going mad with the big issues
  • need a safe sophisticated framework for DP so that regular people can transfer social interactions to web ("just work like real life")
  • Regular people deserve the net Identity Matrix (IO,OI)


Chris Saad Faraday Media

  • Bridge Tech and Mainstream - vendors can bank on
  • There are sophisticated standards group
  • clearing house for OpenID, OAuth, microformats, XFN
  • Recomendation Engine: APML Attention Profiling markup Language

Questions:

  • Can we briefly summarize the data portability standards today and their limitations.


Zac Bjelogrlic BBC

  • Complex interaction with privacy laws, patchwork of laws in different countries, Protect Data vs. Share data.
  • Critical Mass ecosystem will it work?
  • Child protection is a big deal.
  • What role if any should ISP's provide in data portability?
  • Is there a need for a neutral "Identity Bank" to store one's data permissions?
  • Issues arise with data sharing - did one pay for the music one is listening to?
  • Age specific issues - how to protect and give access to who and when?
  • Public Company - Paranoid Country - Must past Public Value Test

Questions:

  • BBC Identity Crisis - Orwell wrote 1984 after working at the BBC
  • How do you create combined value adn desire for 'sharing'?


Andy Dale ooTao

  • Technology and Tech qualities
  • Relational Database inquiries
  • Joins across heterogeneous contexts is key
  • Dataweb (vs. Semantic web) needs set, not just get
  • Distributed pointers indexing not duplicating
  • create correlation under peoples control.
  • Sniffing the Data glue - RDBMS fails to Scale - Relational Database
  • Dataportability is not duplication? (sync?) (distributed ID?)
  • oAuth + glue

QUestions:

  • Does the Dataweb need a semantic web at all? [can both live]
  • Where is the control point can it be the user himself?
  • Can Data Sharing be restful?




Kevin Marks Google

  • Social Graph API
  • Contacts API
  • Open Social -> Abstract Model
  • the social web will be in the cloud - like documents are in the cloud

Questions:

  • How does user represent their point of view on abstraction?
  • What is "the social data"?
  • why won't everyone implement open social?


Inder Microsoft

  • Data Extraction and reciprocal Access
  • Viable Ecosystem migration
  • Policy Framework needed
  • Can you create an ecosystem, or does it need to grow?


Marc Canter Broadband Mechanics

  • its not clear why vendors would be willing to give up control over user's data
  • are all these data exchange standards and single sign-on ID standards gonna work with each implementation? we need testing and compatibility labs!
  • we need a way to let users control and 'opt-in to have their data exported along with others.
  • Reciprocal 2 way API
  • Privacy Stuff
  • the islands "OpenSocial, Yahoo!" "MSFT, Facebook"
  • How to build the MESH
  • user rights
  • benifits to vendors
  • ubiquitous content
  • standards = it works
  • Live Web

Questions:

  • If we can't get reciprocity, can we arrange billing for data exchange?
  • Open Source Tests: Are we Vendors if we're not selling?
  • who (which company/organization) could/should take on the role of central user data repository if needed?
  • what are the incentives for companies to open their users data?
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